Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some pre-debate thoughts
Date:	6/27/2024 5:10:44 PM

I will be the first to admit I do not plan to watch.  Nothing Biden or Trump can say will change my mind.  Biden has to go.  I would have preferred DeSantis but Trump is the nominee and I will support him 100%.

This is not Trump v. Biden.  This is Trump v. Biden, Bash and Tapper.  You can count on them going full Candy Crowley on Trump and treat Biden like their dementia suffering Grandpa.  That is the reason for the time limit on answers and the mic silence button.  It will save Biden from going on about Cornpop, his uncle being eaten by cannibals, his son dying in every war since WW2, driving a truck, etc.

Lot of talk about whether cnnBS gave Biden the questions in advance.  That's just wrong.  The Biden campaign gave cnnBS the questions to ask and they will do as they are told because they want him to win.  The questions will focus on things that do not matter to the electorate, it will be lawfare, lawfare, lawfare, Jan 6, will you accept the results, COVID, etc.  Litttle about inflation, soaring housiong costs, $10T in new debt, illegal student loan bailouts, energy prcies, crime, illegal immigration, deficits, China, Ukraine, etc.  And even when they touch on those issues it will be with loaded, one-sided questions to try to make Trump look bad.

Regardless of what you and most of the viewers think, the media is going to be 24/7 how Biden won the debate.  You will be scratching your head and wonder if they saw what you saw, they did and it won't matter.  And the snap polls, which will be biased, will also come to a the same pre-determined conclusion.

The bar for Biden is set so low (essentially can he make it 90 minutes without collapsing) that he is going to outperform expectations.  Ya see, when they spend 7 days figuring out the optimal drug combo they will probably get it close to correct.  Hence his refusal to take a drug test, a rational thing to do given what he is going to be on.  Just look at his eyes.  His pupils will be dilated, he will alternate between shouting and whispers, etc.

Biden will come out loaded for bear and will be very aggressive....because that is what he does in every debate.  Whether he can do that for 90 minutes is a mystery.   If he does he will either sway people to him or turn them off.

If I were Trump I would let Biden talk as much as possible and ignore him while answering the questions and responding to Biden's malicious lies.  Like Reagan, he should pleasantly say, "There you go again" and stay on his message.  Whether Trump has that level of discipline is anyone's guess but I am skeptical.  He will be his usual self and that is not going to help him with women or independents.

If you happen to watch chime in tomorrow on how I did.  I will be thrilled if I am wrong on any of these, flabbergasted if wrong about even one or two.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some pre-debate thoughts
Date:	6/28/2024 12:12:26 AM (updated 6/28/2024 12:13:18 AM)

You should have watched it.  Holy cow,  I was not going to watch but my son wanted to.  Currently watching CNN after discussion,  They are admitting that Biden crashed and burned and dnc in pure panic mode from the stuttering Brandon (which trump called him to his face)

I will say that I was amazed that CNN did not act like in the past, no interruptions from hosts.  

Find a recording and prepare for laughs.  I almost hit the floor when biden said women are being rapes by brothers and *** sisters *** and that is why we need abortion.  Not sure if he is saying Trans people rape family members or believes that women rape and impregnate other women.

Fjblgb

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some pre-debate thoughts
Date:	6/28/2024 12:23:03 AM (updated 6/28/2024 12:25:50 AM)

https://wltreport.com/2024/06/27/border-patrol-just-fact-checked-biden-live-twitter/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=border-patrol-just-fact-checked-biden-live-twitter

OMG. 

They are now talking on CNN about Kamala or someone else has to replace him on the ticket.  ON CNN!!!!!!

They will charge trump for murder tomorrow!!!

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some post-debate thoughts
Date:	6/28/2024 7:23:56 AM

I had on two live blogs during the debates and they posted clips of the bigger debate moments so I watched some of it.  It sounded so bad that I stayed up and watched some post-debate commentary.  Was shocking to see cnBS and even some on pmsnBS trash his performance.  The saddest part was the clip of Dr. Jill telling him how great he did and he looked like a 4-year old being praised by his mom....this after she had to lead him off stage like a child. 

This is elder abuse, pure and simple as we have been saying for the last four years.  Dems are in a pickle because the only way they can replace him is if he and Dr. Jill agree, and I don't think they will.  And even worse for them is who the presumptive nominee will be, cackling Kamala.  If they replace her with Gavin Newsome or some other person women and blacks are going to go berserk.  No wonder they had the first debate so early.....no wonder they have used ridiculous lawfare against Trump.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Boy was I wrong...Goofy, where are you?
Date:	6/28/2024 8:05:39 AM (updated 6/28/2024 8:53:22 AM)

This was Goofy's opportunity to tell me how wrong I was and I would have to offer my mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.  Below is my review of my miserable prognostication.

This is not Trump v. Biden.  WRONG.  Tapper and Bash apparently just asked questions with reasonable followups.  The fix to get rid of him is in.

Lot of talk about whether cnnBS gave Biden the questions in advance. CORRECT.  Even one of cnnBS's commentators post-debate admitted as much.

The media is going to be 24/7 how Biden won the debate.  WRONG.  For the most part they trashed his performance.  This was a setup because they have known as long as we have that he is infirm.

The bar for Biden is set so low.  WRONG.  It was set very low but he actually significantly underperformed those very low expectations.

Biden will come out loaded for bear.  WRONG.  Either they decided not to drug him up (malicious or incompetence) or what they gave him did not work.  Anyone with a parent in the same situation could have told them it would not work.

If I were Trump I would let Biden talk as much as possible..won't be disciplined.   WRONG.  Trump was apparently on target for most of the night and the split screen and mic mute actually worked to his benefit.  Apparently Biden at times either could not fill his time or in the numerous clips was a rambling, incoherent mess.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Boy was I wrong...Goofy, where are you?
Date:	6/28/2024 9:02:45 AM

You were pretty critical of yourself there MM..lol. But spot on.  I agreed with the first post and am shocked that we were wrong.  I have to say that I did like the mute button.  I despise and never watch the clown show because of all the crosstalk and cr@p.  

We know he refused to be checked for an in ear recieiver.  That has been SOP since 1980.  It was obviuosly in his right ear as you can tell by his body language throughout the debate.  A couple of times he even touches his ear, once almost sticking his finger IN his ear.  You could read his facial expressions an know when they were talking to him. Somteimes he would write things down right after howing a look of acknowledgement on his face. I especially loved the reapperance of OBAMAS BALLS ON HIS CHIN!!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Boy was I wrong...Goofy, where are you?
Date:	6/28/2024 9:55:03 AM (updated 6/28/2024 9:55:55 AM)

One side seemed fixed. The other side reminded me of Marty Feldmans eyes in young frankenstein just wandering around doing what it wants.

Just heard a new term on CNN

JOEMATOSE.   

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some post-debate thoughts
Date:	6/28/2024 12:32:12 PM

Their only chance to save the black vote is to either put Kamala at the top of the ticket or replace with another black, female probably trans to take care of their requirements.

If not I can only imagine how bad the black vote will either not show up or vote for trump when they replace Joe with another white dude who picks his on VP which is probably not going to check those boxes because they know Kamala is a joke

I know I had a low bar for Biden, and he did exceed my expectations, after a week of practicing how to stand for 90 minutes I was not expecting him to remain standing to be honest.  The rest was about what i expected, and some i did not.

Still can not get over the sisters raping sisters, and zero not one troup member killed under his administration. Guess he forgot about the ones he was caught on video checking his watch.  But he has done more for the miliitary then anyone in history and lis using the VA, which is already busy taking care of AMERICAN VETS  to help illegals.

Lets go Brandon.FJB

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	SCOTUS piles on the suicide watch on the left
Date:	6/28/2024 1:53:06 PM

Two massive decisions.  One vacating the Chevron rule and the other the J6 add on charge.  But today it is all about replacing Biden.  SCOTUS was very wise to pick today for these rulings.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Boy was I wrong...Goofy, where are you?
Date:	6/28/2024 1:58:02 PM

I like it when I am wrong sometimes.....this is clearly one of them.  If you don't hate the media enough this should send you into a whole other realm.  That they claim to be shocked that the  guy is senile is the most disingenuous, sniveling thing they've done in a while.  They intentionally covered for him in what was obvious to anyone with a brain and an shred of intellectual honesty and did so during the campaign and right up until last night.  They knowingly lied about his cognitive decline and now they want us to believe they are surprised.  Screw them!  They are the enemy of the country.  They are shameless partisan hacks.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Boy was I wrong...Goofy, where are you?
Date:	6/28/2024 3:11:07 PM

Not having to actually do anything but read from cards or telepormpters for years that was preloaded with questions, answers and stage directions.  It shows

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SCOTUS piles on the suicide watch on the left
Date:	6/28/2024 3:19:20 PM (updated 6/28/2024 3:31:54 PM)

Ditching chevron is a good thing, agencies need to operate inside the law not make the law.

As for ruling that Enron related laws getting stuck down regarding J6 - I have read that they  will not really change anything as they are just going to adjust the sentencingthe other crimes so that some may end up serving more time.

Well that was more about the obstruction charges that also got shot down - but Ill bet money they will not be releasing anyone soon - its all about the pain and suffering for anyone who did not vote for Bribem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/01/appeal-obstruction-trump-january-sixth/

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SCOTUS piles on the suicide watch on the left
Date:	6/28/2024 5:51:43 PM

Nope I did remember correctly

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/breaking-dc-us-attorney-matthew-graves-threatens-seek/