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	Name:	MartiniMan -
	Subject:	It's hopeless
	Date:	10/24/2008 3:00:03 PM

I have been debating GF and others for several weeks and they never use facts or logic. They just pull information off the Obama website and try to use it as if it represents the truth. Mythbuster is always quick to run to "fact" checking websites and then when his "fact" checkers prove to be fraudulent he just disappears. It's like the drive-by media, whether or not something is actually true is not the most important factor.....