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LifeTime Laker
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4/1/2008 7:57:20 PM
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Why is it that everyone assumes if you use a chlorine base cleaner that the 'stitching' will suddenly disintegrate on you boat seats??
When you do a load of whites with bleach do the clothes disentegrate?
Does the 'stitching' suddenly fall out of your underwear?
I am serious here. I don't get it. Chlorine is the BEST mold and mildew cleaner there is. It is the only thing I know of that will actually KILL mold. Mold is a living breathing organism, if you don't KILL it, it comes back. Case in point, Maverick down below needs MORE of his high priced cleaner this year. I would bet money it is the same spots as last year that need to be cleaned again.
The key is RINSING. You need to rinse very well after using bleach, but that is true of ANY cleaner. It is also vital to put a UV protectorant back on after using bleach, but once again, this is true after any good cleaning.
Personally, I would rather spend the big money on the protectorant than so called Mold and Mildew cleaners. If you check the ingredients of most those comercially available cleaners you will find a fancy name for chlorine anyway. I KNOW this is true of Starbright cleaner. They get $15 a PINT for a weak BLEACH solution.
Barnum was right.
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dmp
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4/1/2008 8:19:31 PM
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I agree with you on this one, but one has to remember to keep the solution very weak. In your washer you may only use 1/2-3/4 cup of bleach for 20-25 gal. of wash water. I think anymore than that is potential danger.
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NautiMinded
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4/1/2008 11:48:50 PM
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I was also told do not use Armor All on my upholstery, because it contains alcohol. I was told to use Son of a Gun....no alcohol. I never use bleach, no matter how weak the solution. For cleaning, I use Simple Green. No alcohol, removes stains, mold and mildew and (biodegradable-that's the Democrat in me)! Does someone have a tree I can go hug? (LTL, that one's for you, master!)
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Osms
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4/2/2008 8:04:56 AM
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Many times mildew and mold get to the back side of the vinyl and grow until it destroys the vinyl from the inside out--that's why you see it in the seams. About the only way to combat ir is to take of the covers and treat and no one wants to do that. Only way to prevent it is to keep the boat covered with a water "proof" cover that breathes.
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LifeTime Laker
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4/2/2008 8:57:02 AM
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Yes my beautiful paramour, you are corect not to use Armor All. But forget the Son of a Gun too. Go to Fomby's and buy a gallon of 303 cleaner/protectorant from her. Expensive but worth it. It has a mold and mildew protectorant in it along with the UV prtection that a boat needs.
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dmp
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4/2/2008 9:01:56 AM
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I agree LTL, 303 is by far the best protectant I've ever used. It is the only one I use on anything vinyl.
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AnchorbayDon
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4/2/2008 9:38:30 AM
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I have discussed this issue with the upholstery depts at several boat builders. They told me that the vinyl is coated with a UV protectant when manufactured and that bleach destroys the effect of that protectant, allowing the vinyl to harden and crack. Also, you are correct that the bleach should not harm the threads of the stitching - if you can fully rinse it off. The problem arrises when the bleach soaks into the underside of the stitching and that makes it even more difficult to fully rinse.
All of the boat manufacturers that I know of will treat their upholstery warranty as void if bleach is used to clean it. For that reason, the recommended (and cheap) cleaner is a mixture of 1/3 distilled water, 1/3 hydrogen peroxide and 1/3 Ammonia. It really works!
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AnchorbayDon
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4/2/2008 9:48:35 AM
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LTL, it's OK to use continue to use bleach on your underwear as, hopefully, it will not see the light of day and thus needs no UV protectant!
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water_watcher
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4/2/2008 10:10:14 AM
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Agree 303 is the BEST.
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water_watcher
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4/2/2008 10:16:32 AM
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Why is it that democrats feel they are the only ones that care about the environment. The track record of republics of REAL activities and not just talk is much stronger. Take Al Gore ... he goes around preaching about global warming and an individual carbon footprint, while he flys on a private jet and his home consumes more natural gas than 4 typical homes. Yet George Bush's private home has solar panels, a wind mill and collects rain water for irrigation. He does not go around talking about it ... he just does it.
I guess Democrats like Hillary are too busy evading sniper fire and Obama is too busy slamming the country he wants to lead. Both are fighting who can raise taxes faster and create more socialist program for people too lazy to earn a living on their own.
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Council Roc Doc
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4/2/2008 10:31:28 AM
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The highly explosive chemical Ammonium Nitrate (think Oklahoma City bombing) can be made by oxidizing hydrogen peroxide and ammonia. You didn't have a large stash of your cleaning solution laying under the hot sun around Anchor Bay now did you Don?
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LifeTime Laker
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4/2/2008 11:49:11 AM
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I tried that formula a few years ago Don after I first read it here. It didn't remove the mold/mildew. I would LOVE to find something that works as well as bleach, but I haven't. Rinsing and replacing the UV protection is the key.
As for my underwear.......I may have new video for release this summer!!
LOL
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LKBR
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4/2/2008 11:58:06 AM
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A washer has an agitator that (I would think) would do a lot better job at getting the bleach out of the stitching than you would be able to do on boat seats.
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LifeTime Laker
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4/2/2008 12:04:10 PM
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My underwear IS a UV protectorant...lol.
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.... that is why I have such good luck with bleach. We all know what a GREAT AGITATOR I am......lol.
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lakelady
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4/2/2008 12:23:53 PM
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What's a good solution for cleaning pontoons and the easiest way to do it? Boat is on a lift now and sure would like to get the crud off the bottom of the pontoons.
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LifeTime Laker
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4/2/2008 1:09:53 PM
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AL Gore didn't invent the internet,
But he did make up Global Warming!
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water_watcher
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4/2/2008 8:40:02 PM
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well said
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AnchorbayDon
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4/3/2008 5:42:17 PM
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The easiest cleaning of pontoons is immediately after the boat comes out of the water & before it dries. Then you can use and old pot brush, elbow grease and something like Dawn liquid. If the boat is nowhere near the lake, you can use muriatic acid, but the runoff of that into the lake is prohibited and will cause considerable harm.
If your boat has been out of the waer all winter, I'd launch it and let it float for a couple of weeks before trying to get the crud off.
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AnchorbayDon
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4/3/2008 5:52:42 PM
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I told you it was potent! Seriously, that's all we used on your boat and hundreds of others for years. It is not as strong as bleach, but it does the job and we did not have stitch decay problems.
Maybe now you have a clue as to the source of your fire!
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I have always kept a scrub pad in the pontoon, that way while we are out floating you can use it to remove the scum. It won't do anything for the stain, but muratic acid will take care of that at the end of the season. The scum will cut down on fuel effeciency, the stain won't. And while you are under there a nap is always a good thing...lol.
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