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Name:	want2beonlake -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 12:36:56 PM

If McCain has so much confidence in Sarah Palin why is he suspending his campaign rather than letting her "get the message out" and do the politicking while he is in Washington "dealing with the financial crisis"

she is a big girl and should be able to handle this and keep the campaign going while he is in DC. Of course with some of her recent statements - can see why a short leash is needed.

BTW - Obama still leads in the polls - 49-46% and just for Water Watcher - according to Rasmussen - Obama has 193 electoral votes and McCain has 174 not counting the so called "leaning states". When they are included in the counts on the way they are currently leaning - Obama has 255 and McCain has 247.

and not a copy and paste to be had!!!

Name:	ALSCN -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 1:08:47 PM

you know what is sickening to me... the fact that we are in a financial crisis... stocks have gone to the bottom of the bucket, house-sales are at record low (yes, read your news today), and unemployment is equal to what was seen after 9/11. We have politicians who have a job to do. McCain is trying to get to Washington to do his job... where is Senator Obama... he is still a Senator right... I get so confused lately... movie star... senator... Get back to Washington and DO YOUR JOB.... It drives me crazy that they are calling this the billion dollar presidential race... personally I think that both parties should be given the same amount... and that is all, when your money runs out... you go home. A billion dollars.. WOW... that is CrAzY !!!!!!!!!! I also feel that if you are currently in a public office, serving the people of the nation that you should still have to do your job. Way to go to McCain for realizing that there is a job to do TODAY !

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 2:05:53 PM

Sigh....I suggest you gather information from places other than aBS, cBS, nBS, PMSNBC, etc. and you will see that Palin is still on the stump. And she even took questions from the press no less! She appeared with Katie Couric. She is actually considering going on SNL (which I personally hate because of their awful skit). McCain is the one that is being an adult and trying to do his job.

Funny how McCain going to DC and all the sudden we have a plan to present to the President. I am sure its just a coincidence. The Dow has been up all day in response to McCain's leadership. Look, you may not like McCain but I find it incredible that he is looking for a reason to avoid debating Obama on foreign policy. Especially since he suggested a series of 20 townhall meetings that was rejected by Obama. Maybe he really thought this was the right thing to do. Maybe he thought it was a politically smart thing to do. Maybe both. We will see how the public reacts to Obama's lack of decisiveness and leadership and McCain's approach.

Name:	want2beonlake -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 2:18:31 PM

I don't believe I ever said he was looking to avoid debating Obama on foreign policy. My only question is he avoiding debating in case Lehrer decides to ask a question about it, which he can.

Or, did McCain see this as chance to gain back some ground by supporting his contention of being a "maverick" or a leader who recognizes an issues and meets it head on.

Pro- Obama people are going to read it one way, Pro-McCain are going to read it another.

IAgain, I am not pro-Obama by any stretch of the imaginatio. I am just not a fan of Obama and definately not a fan of Palin. I am simply trying to decide the lesser of two evils - and that might be McCain.

What I cannot stand is when people on this forum promote their own agenda will out and out lies about any of the candidates and then will not admit that they are lies when they are clearly pointed out as such.

I read something about a negative ad that Obama has about McCain and Bermuda tax breaks and it is misleading and not totally accurate, so I did nothing with it.

McCain has ads that are misleading as well - I realize it is politics as usual but people have to willing to be educated and to read to find out what is true (or as true as either of these can be) and what are just blatant lies.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 2:22:41 PM

Find it hard to credit McCain with "solving" the financial mess and coming up with a new plan. I think it is more likely that Congressional members phones are ringing off the hooks with ticked off constituites telling them they better come up with something better or they may be looking for a new job after the election.

My sister, who lives in AZ, tells me that the papers there are full of letters from people ticked off with McCain. Seems they don't feel they have had adequate representation for about 2 years since McCain started running for President. I told her that if AZ doesn't want him (assuming he doesn't win in November) that he can come to Alabama and make his home here, since so many people here seem to think he is wonderful. Maybe he could buy a Lake mansion and live among his most ardent supporters. With the soft real estate market, I'm sure he can get a nice mansion for a cheap price.

Name:	ALSCN -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 3:21:41 PM

In response to above... "My sister, who lives in AZ, tells me that the papers there are full of letters from people ticked off with McCain. Seems they don't feel they have had adequate representation for about 2 years since McCain started running for President."

I am just wondering why is it that all political maps I can find show Arizona as a "McCain" state... I mean if everyone is so ticked at him....

I learned a lesson a long time ago in regards to the media in general. When I was 18 I worked for a bunch of elected officials. I got to see first hand, how corrupt they can be. I had to write a college entry paper on "Something in my life that drastically changed my views"... I wrote it on my view of politics before and after working for them. My english teacher at the time, who had given me the assignment, sent the paper into the editorial section of our hometown newspaper. Who by the way, loved the politicians I worked for. For weeks I would look in the paper and there would be not a single sign of my paper... however, tons of support for the politicians... hmmmmmm, wonder why... maybe it is because the media in general is like a paid advertisement, they only want you to see what THEY want you to see. By the way, the majority of those politicians that I worked for were caught a couple of years back, and were brought up on corruption charges. So the media can not hide it all.

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 3:24:55 PM

want2beonlake...........if you're truely looking for a reason to vote for McCain.......think about your pocket book issues from a strategic stand point.........having a Repub in the White house with a Dem Congress (or vise versa)has more safe guards against run away spending than does a unified government. If you're just playing games.........well..........have fun.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 5:27:28 PM

I have no doubt the papers in Arizona are glad to publish anti-McCain letters. It seems obvious to even the casual observer that the media is an integral part of the Obama campaign. It is a fact that Arizona is not a battleground state and Obama has conceded it to McCain as McCain is not going to try to win Illinois.

Maybe it is just a coincidence that after almost two weeks of no progress, we are moving toward a resolution shortly after McCain suspends his campaign. And maybe it happened so quickly because the leadership in the Senate and House are loathe to let McCain have any credit. But the fact is they need Republican support, especially in the House, and McCain is probably the only national political figure that can deliver that support.

As for your open mindedness regarding who you are going to vote for I truly hope that you are keeping an open mind. McCain for all his faults is in my view the best possible choice given all the uncertainties of Obama.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/25/2008 9:13:03 PM

Sorry to disappoint. I normally try to keep an open mind, but there is no way, no how I would vote for John McCain. I cannot agree with his views on Iraq.
I'll take my chances with Obama before I'd vote for John McCain. I've never liked him. I'm not saying that I think Obama is the best the the democrats could have come up with. It's pitiful that we are left with the choice between Obama and McCain.
I don't think McCain had anything to do with the new proposal. Actually I think Shelby is taking an active role. McCain just had to hurry to Washington so no one would think he was shirking his Congressional duty.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/26/2008 8:27:21 AM

If you are a one issue voter then why even debate with people? And besides, what is the view of McCain on Iraq that you object to? His view is that we should win. Do you want the U.S. to lose in Iraq? Because we would have lost if Obama had been President and his judgment on issues like the surge were dead wrong.

If you objected to our going in there in the first place fair enough. But McCain was not leading that charge but once we were in I think he has shown the character and judgment to want to win. Obama has shown a willingness to prematurely withdraw which would have resulted in the mass murder of Iraqi civilians and the likely invasion by Iran, was wrong in his opinion about Petreaus' view of the effectiveness of the surge and has consistently bashed the U.S. while traveling abroad.

You may like that but God help this country the day we have a majority of Americans that wants us to lose a war, regardless of whether you supported it in the first place. I am looking forward to the day when we can exercise once and for all the damage done by the Me generation of the 60's. It was a grand experiment that failed miserably. Unfortunately we are still suffering the psychological effects.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/26/2008 11:18:22 PM

Ok. I never supported us going into Iraq. I never believed that Iraq posed a threat and unfortunately, I know some of the "architects" of the war. Doug Feith was my bosses boss and Paul Wolfowitz was his boss. I don't have a high opinion of either of those people. I've read a fair amount of intelligence in the business I was in, and I can tell you, you can read most of it any way you want by picking and choosing.
Have you read "the War Within" by Bob Woodward? I think it is pretty objective about how things have gone down in Iraq. Lots of behind the scenes movers and shakers.
No, I don't want us to "lose" in Iraq, but I don't think Iraq is ours to win or lose. Al Queda brought the fight to Iraq because we were there. We should have committed our assets to Afghanistan. I don' think the majority of Americans want us to continue to spend money and lives in Iraq. Don't forget, Iraq is one of the issues that have cost the Republicans dearly with the majority of Americans. I want someone to go after the bad guys in the Kyber Pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and clean out the terrorist training camps in Dafur and other places in Sudan. We can't do that as long as we're tied down in Iraq.

The other thing I don't like about McCain is his age. I think he is too old. Now I know you are going to tell me about his "experience" -- I think the job of President should belong to a younger man with vision. I'm less impressed with an "experienced" Washington insider. I think as a country, we need someone to inspire and lead us. Too much experience can be baggage. Sometimes when you have too much experience, you are resistent to innovation.
McCain's temper is legendary. And he says he is unwilling to talk to the leaders of North Korea and Iran and others. Where can that possibly get us? About the same place as Bush's "Axis of Evil" got us.... No wonder they started building nuclear weapons.

Have said that, I'm not thrilled with Obama either. But, I'm willing to take a risk on his vision and that he will surround himself with people that can make something happen. I'm not worried about tax increases -- heck, if we are in such a financial crisis and both sides of the aisle can't agree on a plan, I'm not worried that there will be any snap decisions on tax increases and increasing the size of govt. This Congress has pretty much demonstrated they can't get out of their own way on either side of the aisle.

Geez, maybe I'm one of the angry white men..

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	McCain & Suspending Campaign
Date:	9/28/2008 10:02:56 PM

Again, reasonable people can disagree on Iraq but I don't think McCain was pushing for it, just believes that we are we are and must win. I actually believe Iraq has the potential to be won and there is so much good news (evidenced in the mainstream media by the total lack of bad news).

As for McCain's age, I think you ascribe a lot of characteristics to him simply based on age without looking at what he does. If anything he goes his own way all too much for my tastes which is why I didnt vote for him in the primaries.

As for Obama's vision, I wonder if you could even articulate it in any cogent fashion. He talks about hope and change but when you hear what few details emerge he isn't about anything other than old fashioned run of the mill liberalism. There is no hope in that as every time its tried it has failed. I am convinced that he is a packaged politician that read the tea leaves, saw the sloganeering that would work and is using it to present a false front. At least with McCain you know what you are getting.

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