Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Just for Goofy...poll on election fraud
Date:	12/13/2023 10:13:32 AM (updated 12/13/2023 11:43:06 AM)

You and I have long sparred about election fraud...me claiming it exists and you saying it doesn't.  So I have refrained from bringing up the numerous local elections recently overturned by judges due to massive fraud, almost always involving ballot stuffing in Zuckerbuck boxes.  Ya know, the same thing video documented to have happened in 2020.  But now I think we can put to rest the debate, and of course I was correct.  Nothing new there.

So how do we know?  Because people admitted to it in a Rasmussen poll where they could tell the truth anonymously and escape any punishment.  So here are the lowlights.

Over 20% admitted to cheating in the 2020 election on mail in or absentee ballots.  Ranging from partial to complete filling out for someone else to acknowledging they voted in a state in which they did not live.  Some details:

21% of likely voters filled out a partial or full ballot for a family member or friend.

19% admitted someone filled out their ballot, again in part or full.

17% admitted to voting in a state they no longer lived in.

All these are crimes. So in the end I was correct, there was massive fraud in 2020.....to the tune of over 14M fraudulent votes, and possibly much more given that even in a poll many would be reluctant to admit to fraud and cheating.

Interestingly, despite only 3% of white respondents admitting to fraud, the survey claimed 46% voted for Biden and 45% voted for Trump.  I think we can look at the 2020 results of minority voters and the percentage that voted by mail in or absentee ballots (Dems much higher than Republicans) to understand that there was a lot of fibbing in the "who did you vote for" category. 

So let me stipulate for the sake of argument that it was bipartisan cheating (which I clearly doubt), what this tells me is that we need to eliminate mail in ballots and reduce absentee ballots to people who actually are unable to vote on election day.  Let us see who opposes this.....let me answer for you, Republicans are all for it and Democrats will be vehemently opposed.... because they know the truth.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/13/2023 7:46:21 PM (updated 12/13/2023 8:00:28 PM)

I know, 14M or more votes is not evidence of fraud, right?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/14/2023 10:32:57 AM

GFY has a habit of not answering questions regarding his party, but I am suprised he has not posted something stupid about Trump to deflect.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/14/2023 11:35:22 AM

His problem is that this poll eviscerates his previously held position on vote fraud and proves that no, it was not a conspiracy theory.  But don't count him out.....he will likely state that there is still not a shred of evidence that voter fraud occurred.  He will probably also say that Biden wasn't "financially" involved in Hunter's pay for play scheme.....the latest iteration of their ever crumbing defense of corruption.

Would be interesting to do a similar poll in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Philly, etc.  Want to bet the number is higher than 20% illegal ballot casting but it wil; be 50/50 between Trump and Biden......in cities where 90% voted for Biden.  I have to admit to being astounded that 20% said they committed fraud.  I would guess that most of them didn't even know what they were doing was illegal.  Either way, if 20% admitted to it that probably means closer to 30% actually did it. 

We need to get rid of mail in ballots and severely restrict absentee ballots.  If you can't get off your lazy a$$ and vote on election day then you don't get to vote.  And if you have a legit reason for an absentee ballot, the tiny exception, so be it.  But otherwise show up and vote.  Too much room for mass fraud as we now know really did happen.......to the tune of over 14M votes and probably much higher.  No wonder I use the term 81millionLOL when discussing Biden's vote count in 2020. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/14/2023 2:02:52 PM

I have seen old people with O2 tanks, wheel chairs etc in line to vote - if they can then the most of the rest can to.

When Trump was voted in the 1st time, When I got to the polling place after work the line was really long - Outside, around the parking lot and out to the street long, just guessing 200+ yards.  They were picking up the elderly with a bunch of golf carts to take them to the front of the line and bringing them back to their cars.

Lazy is not an excuse.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/14/2023 3:40:09 PM

Speaking of which, where is Goofy these days?  Hope it's nothing we said or something wrong with him.  He usually wouldn't let something like this go unanswered.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	The crickets are chirping...c'mon Goofy!!!
Date:	12/14/2023 4:18:23 PM

Maybe he decided that he was not into masochism anymore with his points of view.

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Better question is where’s Archie?
Date:	12/14/2023 5:35:51 PM

And then where's Hunter?  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Better question is where’s Archie?
Date:	12/14/2023 8:14:58 PM

No idea on Archie, not that I can tell as I had him on ignore.  I think we caused him so much existential pain that he went away for good.  Goofy is a different story.  I've communicated with him via email and he's a good guy.....we just differ on politics.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Better question is where’s Archie?
Date:	12/15/2023 8:53:12 AM

I agree MM.  GF is a good sport!!  Archie on the other hand......would not stop drinking the kool-aid.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Better question is where’s Archie?
Date:	12/15/2023 11:13:43 AM

I emailed him and no response as yet.  Hope he's OK.