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Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Just saw
Date:   11/1/2008 8:18:39 AM

a clip of a speach BO gave yesterday and he was defending that his tax plan was not socialistic, but then said people that want to keep all the earn are being selfish.

Who is he to decide. I pay enough in taxes and donate to charities and volunteer for several community programs. I dont need BO taking more to decide how to "redistribute".

The number is now down to $120,000. It started at $300m, then $250m, then $200n, then $150m, and now $120m. He keeps redefining. The guy is a liar and realizing he will need to dip lower in the pockets of people to pay for his socialist programs.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Just saw
Date:   11/1/2008 9:52:56 AM

It is amazing to watch the number jump around on an almost daily basis. They think they have ths is won so they are trying to lower expectations and provide cover for when he actually does what he is really planning, which is to increase taxes on every person that pays federal taxes to redistribute to those that don't in order to buy their votes.

And they know that whine they raise taxes on a two income family with four kids that make $75K per year they will point to that one speech at that one time and say, "see I told you I was going to do that and people voted for me so stop whining". And the media, because they have given up all pretense of objectivity will go right along with it because they have to cover their own sorry behinds in this massive lie to the American people. Further evidence of this is the trickling out of negative stories about Obamination intended to provide cover for the mainstream media that they can point to as evidence they were "critical" of Obamination and tried to warn the American people. I think they actually believe we are that gullible.

Predictions if we get Obamination/Reid/Pelosi:

1. For the next five years we are going to see massive losses and layoffs in the dominant print and television media as the alternate media (which is honest in representing its left or right leaning bias) takes over.

2. The unFairness Doctrine (using a requirement for local content as judged by liberal comissars) will result in the destruction of terrestrial radio and that conservative talk will go to the internet and satellites where the government can't control them.

3. The definition of hate speech will be significantly expanded and we will begin to see the persecution of pastors and priests that speak the truth about social issues like homosexuality and gay marriage and the suppression of free speech in the alternate media ala Canada's human rights commission.

4. There will be a tax on the internet and Congress will likewise pass laws to control the content of the internet under the guise of fixing some problem.

5. Taxes will go up for every American that pays federal taxes (this is actuall a gimme because Obamination/Reid/Pelosi have said they will let the Bush tax cuts expire which raises every single marginal tax rate). Only the stupid and idelogically blind actually believe his bald faced lies about the 95%.

6. Every problem, every attack that we experience by Islamofascists, every economic problem, every increase in unemployment, interest rates and inflation will be blamed on Bush and every hypocrite liberal that claimed the buck stops at the top will give the messiah a pass.




Name:   4691 - Email Member
Subject:   Just saw McCain speech in VA
Date:   11/1/2008 10:02:29 AM

Speaking in Newport News this a.m. McCain was really energized. Excellent especially at the end...really hitting hard and right on target.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Just saw McCain speech in VA
Date:   11/1/2008 10:53:06 AM

I saw that as well ... it was a fantastic speech.

Also, did you hear yesterday that Biden had a "rally" and only 800 people showed up ... Palin had a rally and 23,000 showed up. She makes a speech (unlike Obamanation) without a Teleprompter and delivers one heck of a speech. She is showing the critics that she is a far better VP candidate than Biden ever thought of being.

There was a poll out yesterday that asked women that supported Clinton are you more or less likely to support McCain with Palin on the ticket. 88% said they were more likely.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Just saw
Date:   11/1/2008 11:00:10 AM

Excellent points ...

The piece americans have not connected yet is the BO keeps saying he will let the Bush tax cuts expire. They did not impact just the rich, they benefited everyone (this is a proven fact). So then BO says he will reduce taxes below (pick the current number), that is after the Bush tax cuts expire. So most americans WILL pay more in taxes.

BO is not calling that a tax increase because the Bush tax cuts were time limited. So when they go away, your taxes go up and then BO will reduce them for some americans, but in MOST cases it will be not to the level people are paying today.

This is so misleading. All these poor souls are thinking, Oh I will pay less taxes than I do now .... but instead they will pay more. They will look at their check and ask what happen and BO will say "I guess you misunderstood, but now you are more patriotic and less selfish because you are helping the government get bigger and use YOUR money more wisely than you would have".







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