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water_watcher
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/12/2009 7:17:16 PM
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Good for him ... he could not support the spending bill, he tried to get Obama to listen to him and he would not ... so he quit.
I have tremendous respect for him. He has values and beliefs. It is obvious Obama wanted to pick a republican in hopes that he would go along and not challenge the move to socialism ... Gregg was too much of a man to be a puppet.
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Talullahhound
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/12/2009 8:46:31 PM
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I know that he didn't support the spending bill, but my understanding he was more upset about moving the Census from under the Commerce Department. I didn't read anywhere that he tried to talk to Obama and that he wouldn't listen. I think maybe you're making an assumption there or some media source is making that assumption.
BTW, I also read that Gregg asked the Administration for the job, they didn't pursue him. I'm sure he's a fine person -- but there is always a suspicion that there may be something in his background that he thought twice about putting before the Confirmation Committee. Or maybe since the Republicans have taken such a hard line, he felt that his long term political career would be put in jepordy.
But assuming it is on the up and up, it's a good thing he withdrew if he can't support the President's policies before they wasted a lot of time and tax payer money with a Confirmation hearing. Maybe someone from here should step forward.
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Swimmer27
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/13/2009 6:51:56 AM
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He was probably afraid they would excoritae him because he actually paid his taxes!!
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water_watcher
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/13/2009 6:58:26 AM
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Guess we watch different channels. He is going to be on live with CNBC this morning.
Yes the census moving away from the commerce dept seems to be the final straw to make him withdraw. But he specifically said that he could not see eye to eye on some of these decision with the president and the administration. You can say I read between the lines, but you don't withdraw without having a conversation with the president and then the president says sorry you need to do it my way. Not sure why Obama's 144 days of experience is better than Gregg's and why Obama picks a cabinet and then will not let them do the job. Did Obama not know he was a conservative republican before he picked him??
Seems like he picked him for show, and then wanted Gregg to become a liberal and agree with Obama on everything.
Now think about this, Obama has been in office 23 days and has had two withdrawals and several tax sandals. Not a good tone for the next 4 years.
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Talullahhound
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/13/2009 8:47:28 AM
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Well, I think it is reasonable for the President to expect people in his cabinet to support his policies once decisions are made.
And Gregg did the right thing if he is unable to support the President's agenda. Understand this morning that Gregg has decided that he will not run for re-election.
Apparently the Administration didn't know that Gregg was going to withdraw before he made his press release.
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water_watcher
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Judd Gregg Quits
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2/13/2009 10:16:19 AM
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I would agree he did the right thing to withdraw. He made it clear on CNBC that he was honored to be approached and "asked" to serve by Obama. He was troubled that Obama knew he was a conservative republican and would still ask ... and when it became clear that he would not be able to keep to his beliefs and "operate in the position consistent with his beliefs" he felt the right thing to do was withdraw and allow Obama to select someone more consistent with his thinking.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want to what he said ... but I take that as Obama and his administration just wanted him to be a yes man and go along with what they wanted. If that is the case then Obama should pick liberal democrats and stop this joke that he wants to unite and believes in being bipartisian. He clearly does not.
Gregg also stated that there is more money in the stimulus going to "the arts" than small businesses that can create jobs. Also that the priority is to the social spending programs that will not create jobs and the parts of the bill that are good, most do not go in to effect until 2010 and 2011.
Also the thinking like Maxine Waters lecturing a CEO of a bank on using credit cards is embarrassing for our country.
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Talullahhound
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We'll probably never know
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2/13/2009 4:25:29 PM
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the whole story about this. Supporting the President's agenda is not the same as being a yes man. But in the government, you speak your mind during the decision process and make your concerns, ideas known, but once the decision is made you are then supposed to support it whether you agree with it or not. So if he quit because he couldn't support the decision, then he did the honorable thing.
Who "asked" who is always a funny thing too. Apparently he made it known to the Administration that he was "interested" and as a result, they "asked" him, knowing he would say yes. It's a tricky little game, played out between the staffs. My guess is that the right questions weren't asked by either staff before the offer and acceptance.
Of course he thinks it is a terrible bill... Is that the official positon of the Republican party? He's got to go back and work with those people. Look what the dems did to Joe Lieberman when he crossed lines.
I really hope this is the last "withdrawl". They need to get these people in place. A lot of normal government business gets held up when there isn't a cabinet secretary or his appointees in place. One of the lesser known things the Commerce Department does is makes decisions on foreign companies merging with or buying out American companies. After the Ports fiasco, Congress put a bunch of controls in place about who can make decisions on some of them that are determined to have an impact on national security. And that decision has not been delegated below the Secretary of Commerce. So when we don't have one, nothings happening.
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water_watcher
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We'll probably never know
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2/13/2009 5:32:57 PM
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In the "real" business world it works the same ... you can disagree but when the decision is made everyone get in alignment. But what it sounds like here is that his voice was never heard or considered ... they just wanted the alignment without any input. That is sad.
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Talullahhound
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We'll probably never know
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2/13/2009 6:36:26 PM
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If that's the way it went down, then it is sad.
Not the change I thought would happen.
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