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JustAGuy
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Obama's Speech To Students
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9/7/2009 9:51:47 PM
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Was it worth all the hubbub? I say no. Much ado about nothing.
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Yankee06
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Obama's Speech To Students
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9/8/2009 2:10:10 AM
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JAG,
-I agree with you, yes, a pretty straight brief as attached. However, this controversy will not die for awahile. Why? because....
-The left/dems side of teh discussion will say, --see, this is a simple "stay in and do good in school" speech.
-The right/conservative side will say, ---yeah , that's what the speech says NOW, but what would he have said if we hadn't voiced our concern.
-So we'll never know who is correct.
-But I, as an independant (some still say "wishy-washy"), was wiling to wait and see what the guy says, because almost whatever he says has to be inspirational for kids in inner cities and rural areas where education is in shambles. BUt what i was concerned about as expressed in below emails was the second paragraph of teh original lesson plans, --the "what can we do for our president" stuff.
-It's true that None of us may ever know if or how his speech may have changed because of teh hubbub; but it is equally true that we all DO know that the the lesson plan changed because of teh hubbub.
-This is just one incident of political whip lash, and, by most accounts, a small one. However, what is causing growing concern among the independents I know and talk with is the growing accumulation of these single "not-to-worry" incidents, that as a group is starting to cause alot of the people "to worry." Examples: the "I apologize for America" tour thru Europe; the "America is not a Christian nation" tour thru the mid-east; the kisssy face tour through South America; the we can't intrude in teh Iran unrest, but we can intrude in teh Isreali unrest"; the "no-read" vote on cap and trade; the public takeover of auto companies that disregarded long standing bankruptcy procedures for bond owners in favor of unions claims; the czars of unvetted people of questionable character and loyalties; an untennable healthcare bill in content to be pushed thru in a no-read' vote; etc, etc, etc,
-I honestly want to believe that he and his administration can be good for America, but I doubt it more and more every day.
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MartiniMan
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Obama's Speech To Students
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9/8/2009 11:44:29 AM
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Did you read the lesson plans that they put to go with this? Let's imagine we replaced Obama with Bush and asked school children to write an essay about what they need to do for Bush. Also, when Bush did something similar Democrats and the netroots were calling for hearings and investigations.
The speech itself is innocuous. Everything else surrounding it was noxious. Not much ado about nothing......
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JustAGuy
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Obama's Speech To Students
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9/8/2009 5:58:54 PM
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And I think the Dems were wrong for complaining/investigating when Bush did it. I saw the lesson plan and agree that the "what can you do to help the president" thing was a mistake, and I'm glad they took it out.
I don't have a problem that people questioned whether the President should address students ... it was the level of the vitriol that got to me ... Hitler ... indoctrination .... I'm gonna keep my kids home from school ... it was just soooo over the top. Don't we have bigger problems to address than this one speech?
Bringing back an old favorite .... my two cents :)
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water_watcher
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9/9/2009 10:16:09 AM
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Not in its final form ... a non event. But I am SURE that the speech got toned down due to the objections so they could say se it was a good message.
I do think it was a good message how it was finally written, but I would have loved to have seen the draft before all the push back. We will never know.
I did see parts of the speech on the news and could not believe that he used a telepromter to deliver a speech to some kids in school. He looks 30% to the right, then 30% to the left ... but NEVER straight at the camera when he largest audience was watching him on TV. AMAZING.
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