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Talullahhound
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Pakistan
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4/28/2009 10:02:53 AM
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News of the swine flu outbreak seems to have overshadowed what is going on in Pakistan. Basically, the Taliban is moving in and the Pakistan government is not doing anything about it. I can't say I have a lot of faith in the Pakistan military to save the situation either.
Years ago, I had ocassion to make a several trips to Pakistan. I found Pakistanis to be rather emotional people and easily stirred up. I can't say that anything I observed at that time would lead me to conclude that I would see them, as a culture, rising up against the Taliban.
This is a bad development. The worst of which is Pakistan's nuclear capability, but the Taliban gaining a foothold in Pakistan and turning it into a religious state. This is bound to make India nervous too, given the hatred between Muslims and Hindis. Wouldn't want them to decide to do a "premptive strike".
Not sure how it all came out, but when I left government, we were in the process of making India "our new best friends",something we seemed to want more than the Indians did. Of course,our concerns were more about India/China relations than India/Pakistan relations. Guess that will be changing.
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PikeSki
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Pakistan on the attack
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4/28/2009 10:28:01 AM
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Looks like Pakistan is taking the offensive. See link for story.
URL: Pakistan: Fighter Jets Attack Taliban in Expanded Offensive
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MartiniMan
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The price of appeasement
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4/28/2009 10:43:26 AM
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This is what the Pakistan government gets for appeasing Taliban Islamofascists. Give them an inch and they will try to take a mile because they see appeasement as WEAKNESS, which it is. I hope our current President is paying attention instead of having conversations with his teleprompter (if Bush had done that it would have been on the evening news for a week straight). You cannot appease fanatics, you cannot "reach out" to your sworn enemies. In all of history lasting peace has never been won through negotiation. It is only reached through military defeat of an aggressor.
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Talullahhound
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Pakistan on the attack
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4/28/2009 3:21:15 PM
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I hope this is true. I can only imagine the back channel conversations going on between the State Department and the Pakistani government right now. I'm sure our Ambassador to Pakistan is very busy at the moment and no doubt Patraous or his emissary is talking to the military trying to bolster them. I've just never been too impressed with the Pakistani miltary and their discipline, but maybe this will work.
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Talullahhound
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Pakistan on the attack
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4/28/2009 3:21:16 PM
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I hope this is true. I can only imagine the back channel conversations going on between the State Department and the Pakistani government right now. I'm sure our Ambassador to Pakistan is very busy at the moment and no doubt Patraous or his emissary is talking to the military trying to bolster them. I've just never been too impressed with the Pakistani miltary and their discipline, but maybe this will work.
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Talullahhound
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The price of appeasement
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4/28/2009 3:27:11 PM
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I agree to a point. The moderate Muslim governments have to walk a fine line with the radical elements though, because there is probably a portion of the Pakistani population who would like to see the Taliban establish a "pure" society. I'm no fan of the Pakistani government (or their military), but they're in a tight spot. And I think you are right -- I don't think they can negotiate a "treaty" with the Taliban. I dont' think the US has ever regarded Pakistan as a "reliable" partner, only a necessary one.
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MartiniMan
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The price of appeasement
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4/29/2009 3:46:28 PM
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I'm just glad we're not them. Sadly, we will probably get to see how it will work in Europe as Muslim and European birth rates reach their inevitable conclusion over the next generation or two. I am taking my kids to Europe now before they will have to wear a burhka and the Vatican is the last remaining vestige of Christianity.
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