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Name:   Ivan - Email Member
Subject:   SLISA
Date:   9/22/2009 7:18:38 AM

What happened to Slisa? I thought their main concern was the health and warefare of the lake? I guess my first impression must have been correct... I feel for the fools that fell for their hidden agenda.... At least the masses didn't fall for their 21st Century version of the Pyramid Scheme..



Name:   lamont - Email Member
Subject:   Dumb ?
Date:   9/22/2009 8:04:07 AM

Who is SLISA?



Name:   waterph - Email Member
Subject:   SLISA
Date:   9/22/2009 11:34:03 AM

"I thought their main concern was the health and warefare of the lake? I guess my first impression must have been correct... I feel for the fools that fell for their hidden agenda.... At least the masses didn't fall for their 21st Century version of the Pyramid Scheme.."

Poor Ivan! He apparently gets confused easily and post to the wrong segment of the forum. Ivan - this part is for Off Topics. Did you intend to post to Smith Lake Topics?

I now understand how you became confused as to what SLISA was attempting to accomplish with their work with FERC on APC's application for the permit.How was the efforts by SLISA related to a Pyramid Scheme? By the way - Did you ever attend a SLISA meeting at Lakeshore or talk with SLISA Board members or regular members?

I copied the majority of your comments about SLISA above. SLISA supported the health of "warefare" of Smith Lake in their negotiations with FERC and APC. In addition to maintaining the health and welfare of the lake, SLISA also petitioned FERC on the basis of controlling the drop of the lake to meet the rule curve. Never did SLISA oppose water quality or clean shorelines.

If I understand, FERC has yet to issue the permit to APC for Smith Lake. Do you not think that these "fools" who supported SLISA were ordinary citizens and property owners who wanted decent water levels in the Summer months. Is that unreasonable!

I would suggest this for consideration. Even in years with plentiful rainfall, APC still dropped the level to 496 by September, Labor Day. Is it not strange that the level in September 2009 was around the 502 level which was the minimum proposed by SLISA to FERC and APC.



Name:   waterph - Email Member
Subject:   Dumb ?
Date:   9/22/2009 2:03:46 PM

SLISA stands for Smith Lake Improvement and Stakeholders Association. This was an organization formed to negotiate with FERC to gain some concessions from APC on stabilizing water level shifts on Smith Lake. Many property owners on Smith Lake were members of SLISA.

APC has admitted that the cool waters from Smith Lake during the hot summer months are necessary to operate the Gorgas steam Plant downstream of Smith Lake. The deep waters of Smith lake are necessary at Gorgas due to the fact that Gorgas does not have cooling towers.

SLISA proposed to FERC that APC operates with a minimum of 502 feet and follow the rule curve.




Name:   Ivan - Email Member
Subject:   SLISA
Date:   9/24/2009 9:25:53 AM

No waterph, I didn't intend to post to the Smith Lake Forum... Quite frankly, I wanted to see how long it would take you to find this post... Needless to say, you must have nothing better to do in life than cruise this site waiting to say something bad about Alabama Power. So you're wrong, I don't get "Easily Confused" If I did, I would have been one of the stupid fools that fell for SLISA's lies and deceptions and sent them money. Speaking of SLISA, IF and and it's a HUGE IF... They supported the health and warefare of the Lake, why did they disapear after they lost their bid to stop Alabama Power from running the lake the way they have for over 40 years? Seems to me, that SLISA could still be working closely together with RENEW our RIVERS in order to help the condition of the lake.
You asked if I ever attended a meeting or talked to one of the regular members? As a matter of fact, YES to both of those questions... It was extremely apparent from the first and ONLY meeting that I attended, that their main concern was to keep the levels above a certain level. WHY? that was easy to see(If you have an open mind!) Because the founding members own hundreds of acres and thousands of water frontage feet around the lake, that is "Seasonal" at the present rule curve. Raise the rule curve, and that seasonal water becomes year round... I guess you never looked at it that way, since you're so simple minded. Just imagine the difference in what that land is worth? Don't get me worng, I never had an issue with their "Hidden" agenda; That is, if they would have just stated it in the front end.. A blind man could see it.. Now go back to your computer and write some additional rubbish....



Name:   Ivan - Email Member
Subject:   SLISA
Date:   9/24/2009 9:27:38 AM

No waterph, I didn't intend to post to the Smith Lake Forum... Quite frankly, I wanted to see how long it would take you to find this post... Needless to say, you must have nothing better to do in life than cruise this site waiting to say something bad about Alabama Power. So you're wrong, I don't get "Easily Confused" If I did, I would have been one of the stupid fools that fell for SLISA's lies and deceptions and sent them money. Speaking of SLISA, IF and and it's a HUGE IF... They supported the health and warefare of the Lake, why did they disapear after they lost their bid to stop Alabama Power from running the lake the way they have for over 40 years? Seems to me, that SLISA could still be working closely together with RENEW our RIVERS in order to help the condition of the lake.
You asked if I ever attended a meeting or talked to one of the regular members? As a matter of fact, YES to both of those questions... It was extremely apparent from the first and ONLY meeting that I attended, that their main concern was to keep the levels above a certain level. WHY? that was easy to see(If you have an open mind!) Because the founding members own hundreds of acres and thousands of water frontage feet around the lake, that is "Seasonal" at the present rule curve. Raise the rule curve, and that seasonal water becomes year round... I guess you never looked at it that way, since you're so simple minded. Just imagine the difference in what that land is worth? Don't get me wrong, I never had an issue with their "Hidden" agenda; That is, if they would have just stated it in the front end.. A blind man could see it.. Now go back to your computer and write some additional rubbish....



Name:   gabby - Email Member
Subject:   SLISA
Date:   9/24/2009 12:22:09 PM

Seems as if there is a LTL everwhere!:)







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