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waterph
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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10/27/2010 6:07:03 PM
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Based on the current lake level during the past 48 hours, it appears that Winston, Walker, and Cullman counties received little rainfall. This is really strange in that where I live we received over 6 inches. This is really amazing!!!!! Does anyone on the forum undeerstand what's going on?????? I thought the weather covered all of North Alabama. I guess that I was wrong!!!!
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LOCOonWater
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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10/30/2010 7:59:33 AM
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It's the same ol thing the. Al. liar I mean power company thinks people are stupid. They really believe we could get 5 to 6 inches of rain and the lake level didn't move. The way they control this lake is shame.
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waterph
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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10/30/2010 10:29:07 PM
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An Amazing Feat for a public utility!
Congratulations to Alabama Power for water control capability on Smith lake that is unprecedented. When a target is provided, their control systems are such that they could probably assist NASA in in placing a man/woman on the moon. It's as simple as controlling to target. Is that not amazing.
The level for the last 10 days averaged 499,19 feet with a standard deviation of o.074 feet. That means that with 99+% confidence their level control capability is from 498.97 feet to 499.41 feet, a delta of 0.44 feet. And what's amazing!!! This control capability was possible during tornado alerts in North Alabama and with 6 inches of rain within a two day period. Historically, a rainfall amount of this level would raise the lake level by 3 to 5 feet. TVA needs to consult with APC and ask for information on this new control capability.
The challenge to APC is now to assist homeowners on Smith Lake in the flood plan to eliminate the need for flood insurance. Floods are a thing of the past with the exotic computerized control systems used. I'm sure that some level of artificial intelligence is part of the control algorithm.
Just think!! No more flood threats, FEMA can drop the demands for flood insurance,and APC can control to higher levels during the summer months with low variability. Thank you APC for this new technology.
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Ivan
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/2/2010 2:03:16 PM
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You guys are just totally unbelievable! Ever give it any thought, that after one of the dryest Summers, that most of those 6" of rain was absorbed into the soil and not run-off into the lake? Of course not, you guys probably think that Alabama Power is selling "Your" water to the Westcoast states in order to make additional money... Hey, wait a minute: Maybe the water has been re-routed to Area 51! The aliens need the additional water in order to convert it to hydrogendisulfideoxyacetylene to fuel their warp speed rockets..... You guys really do need to get a day job...
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| Name: |
waterph
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/2/2010 4:27:04 PM
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Ivan The Great Thinker
Your thought process for no increase in water level with 6 inches of rainfall in a short time period fascinates me. Also, I had never thought of your theory of Aliens from outer space or ground so porous that there will be no runoff.when it rains. This theory of porous ground bothers me in that I could be out walking and suddenly disappear.
In years past when the lake would rise 3 feet after a heavy rain, I now know that the rainfall was not associated with the rise in lake level. I am now even more interested as to what caused the water level to rise. Have aliens been around Smith Lake and we never knew it?
But wait! I have some oceanfront property in the mountains of West Virginia that you might be interested in buying as a long term investment. This land is remote and you could invite your alien friends to visit without being observed by earthlings.
And, I don't like to work so why should I get a day job. I've grown lazy in my old age. I'm waiting for some Obama money to be sent in the mail.
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Ivan
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/2/2010 9:54:47 PM
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Well, what can I say.... I still have over 30 feet of water under my dock, so I guess buying the type of property I bought solved any problems those aliens might have created by stealing our water..... If you worked during the day, you would probably have less time to complain...
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waterph
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/2/2010 10:58:15 PM
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30 ft of water is great if you can get to your dock. I suggest that you have to be as agile as a mountain goat to get there. But, that should be no problem with your alien friends and their space ship. They can help you.
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waterph
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New Statistics
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11/3/2010 11:38:36 AM
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The original numbers for water level starting on 10/20/2010 (10 days) reflected an average of 499,19 feet with a standard deviation of o.074 feet. During that period, statistically speaking meant that with 99+% confidence, APC is capable of controlling from 498.97 feet to 499.41 feet, a delta of 0.44 feet. This is outstanding level control even with 6 inches of rainfall within a 48 hour period.
New statistics starting on 10/20/2010 through 11/3/2010.
Avg water level - 499.20 feet
Std. Dev. - 0.066
Range with 99+% probability - 499.00 feet to 499.40
Folks, this is straight line control. What is APC doing differently in the operation of the Gorgas Plant that permits basically zero change in water level over a two week period. In my 16 years on the lake, I have never seen this level of control.
And this level of control in a time of average day time temperatures. So, what about losses for evaporation, navigation, municipalities demands, and hydro power generation?
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LOCOonWater
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/4/2010 8:50:56 PM
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If you really believe that 6 inches of rain could be absorbed before it could run off you must live in the desert. As far as you having 30ft of water you probably live under one of the bridges.
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rock creek recluse
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/5/2010 9:03:47 AM
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Is that where trolls live? I am so glad there is some chatter on our site. I am tired of reading what those lake Martin folks are putting out. Yea smith lake.
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lotowner
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New Statistics
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11/6/2010 6:12:22 AM
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I've read some of these replies and I'm confused. Six inches of rain is a lot of rainfall. Why would the lake not rise at least one foot? We're not anywhere close to flood level..
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Ivan
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New Statistics
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11/9/2010 5:54:05 AM
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I guess that all the strategic haybails that APCO placed around the perimeter of the lake must have absorbed all of the rain.... That, or like I stated earlier: Maybe there's a conspiracy and they're routing all that water to the Western States... As far as 6" of rain being absorbed into the ground, well yeah, it has been a desert around here for the past couple of months... DUH!
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waterph
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Statistics, Oct 20 - Nov. 11, 2010
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11/11/2010 9:50:45 PM
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Just ran some statistics on current water level control by APC. For this period, the Average level was 499.20 feet with a standard deviation of 0.056 feet. Three sigma is +/- 0.17 feet. Folks - This is a demonstrated control capability from 499.03 feet to 499.37 feet with 99+% confidence. I have never in the last 15 years seen this level of control on Smith Lake. What has changed to allow this level of control?
This means from a water balance perspective that water coming in via rain and flow from creeks, etc. is basically equal to water going through the turbines + losses due to evaporation + water removed by Municipalities + water released for downstream navigation. How can APC maintain this level of delicate balance? Why in the summer months is lake level moving down by 0.1 foot per day? Why is the total level dropped from 510 feet tto 499.2 feet and then for no explainable reason(s) be controlled at 499.20 +/- 0.17 feet.
I'd be interested in perspectives that will explain this sudden control capability. And Ivan, hay bales, no run off, selling water to the West, and Aliens are not part of the equation. Give me a serious answer.
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old dad
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/12/2010 5:49:56 PM
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We did not get 6 inches of rain in the whole area. Maybe some places got 6, but to move the level up all areas have to get that much rain. Birmingham did not get even one-half inch.
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Lake Hound
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/14/2010 3:12:46 PM
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wow been readin all this crap well i guess your gonna get no stats out of Ivan huh ? does he really have 30 feet under that dock !........maybe he has a place that just looks over the lake !
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| Name: |
Ivan
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Water Level Static with 6 Inches of Rain
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11/16/2010 5:52:09 PM
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Statistics are only as good as the person reporting them... As far as having 30 feet of water, you can come over when ever you want, and check out my depth gauge on my pontoon..
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