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Name:	Eric -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/25/2008 3:51:47 PM

Is there any new information regarding the new model FERC required APCO to submit regarding smith lake? It appears that the 45 days has passed.

Name:	turnipgreen -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/26/2008 9:45:15 AM

What I heard was that APCO asked for, and received, a 45 day extension. There was a link somewhere to the information, but I don't recall where I saw it.

Ron

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/26/2008 5:36:00 PM

I find this highly unusual in that this information supposedly existed within APC and was used previously for the 50 year permit process. So, the question to me is why was a 45 day extension necessary?

In a recent article in The Decatur Daily by writer Bayne Hughes, APC spokesperson Michael Sznadjerman was quoted as follows.

"Michael Sznajderman called the request “routine,” just as he did when the commission delayed consideration of the company’s application for a 50-year license in September 2007. “This is not unusual,” Sznajderman said. “FERC asked for additional information on the Warrior and Coosa, too, during the re-license process.” Sznajderman said his company should not have any problem meeting the commission’s request. Alabama Power will have to use existing studies, computer models and historic data."

Name:	Bill -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/28/2008 3:34:32 PM

What difference does it make?

http://elibrary.ferc.gov/idmws/common/downloadOpen.asp?downloadfile=20080818%2D5022%2819666588%29%2Epdf&folder=18532840&fileid=11781597&trial=1

http://elibrary.ferc.gov/idmws/common/downloadOpen.asp?downloadfile=20080819%2D3003%2819674075%29%2Epdf&folder=18532803&fileid=11782599&trial=1

Name:	waterph -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/28/2008 4:23:37 PM

If APC has the information requested by FERC as their spokesperson suggested, why can it not be supplied to FERC? Just a question!

Name:	Eric -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/28/2008 6:08:59 PM

I agree. The only thing that seems to be consistent about APC's explanation for low water levels are inconstencies.

I also read something not too long ago in the paper where someone from APC said the evaporation on the lake was unbelievable. My neighbor also said the same thing. I did a little search ont he subject and according to info I've read, the average evaporation rate is around 1/8" per day, higher in the summer and lower in the winter. There was an article about the evaporation rate at Lake Lanier being 2/10" per day, which some were arguing was a little high. Even if you assume 2/10" an inch per day, it would take 60 days for 1 foot of water to evaporate from the lake. The evaporation theory just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

I don't understand how the lake could fill up as fast as it did earlier in the year, when the ground was dry as bone, and not budge an inch when it rains in the summer and fall. Maybe there's some perfectly logical reason, but the answers that APC has (has not) provided don't hold (no pun intended) water.

I think most everyone just wants honest, defensible answers instead of what appears to be smoke and mirrors.

Also, if what SLISA says turns out to be true about Gorgus, it's highly repulsive to me that they would use this clean crystal clear water to facilitate the operation of one of the dirtiest, most polluting power producing plants in the nation.

Name:	keyman -	Reply
Subject:	FERC Requiring new model
Date:	8/31/2008 12:19:41 PM

Bill, below are quotes from the Daily Mountain Eagle. Jim Crew is the head of relicensing and he makes the statement that Smith Lake does not release water for Gorgas and that APC will meet the 45-day deadline. It is a fact that both of those statements are inaccurate.It is a pattern of deception.

At a local meeting in May, Crew disagreed that Plant Gorgas had any affect on the water levels at Smith Lake.

“We are not releasing water from the lake for Gorgas,” Crew said. “The lake is for hydrogeneration at a time of peak power generation, and Gorgas simply benefits as a result.”

Crew said the utility will meet FERC’s 45-day deadline for the additional information and a final environmental assessment from the commission should follow shortly thereafter.

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