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lotowner
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/18/2010 1:14:05 PM
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From The London Daily Telegraph On Foreign Relations
"Let me be clear: I'm not normally in favour of boycotts, and I love the American people. I holiday in their country regularly, and hate the tedious snobby sneers against the United States. But the American people chose to elect an idiot who seems hell bent on insulting their allies, and something must be done to stop Obama's reckless foreign policy, before he does the dirty on his allies on every issue." --London Daily Telegraph editor -- Alex Singleton, April 11.
One of the most poorly kept secrets in Washington is President Obama's animosity toward Great Britain, presumably because of what he regards as its sins while ruling Kenya (1895-1963).
One of Barack Hussein Obama's first acts as president was to return to Britain a bust of Winston Churchill that had graced the Oval Office since 9/11. He followed this up by denying Prime Minister Gordon Brown, on his first state visit, the usual joint press conference with flags.
The president was "too tired" to grant the leader of America's closest ally a proper welcome, his aides told British journalists.
Mr. Obama followed this up with cheesy gifts for Mr. Brown and the Queen. Columnist Ian Martin described his behavior as "rudeness personified." There was more rudeness in store for Mr. Brown at the opening session of the United Nations in September. "The prime minister was forced to dash through the kitchens of the UN in New York to secure five minutes of face time with President Obama after five requests for a sit down meeting were rejected by the White House," said London Telegraph columnist David Hughes. Mr. Obama's "churlishness is unforgivable," Mr. Hughes said.
The administration went beyond snubs and slights last week when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton endorsed the demand of Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, a Hugo Chavez ally, for mediation of Argentina's specious claim to the Falkland Islands, a British dependency since 1833. The people who live in the Falklands, who speak English, want nothing to do with Argentina. When, in 1982, an earlier Argentine dictatorship tried to seize the Falklands by force, the British -- with strong support from President Ronald Reagan -- expelled them.
"It is truly shocking that Barack Obama has decided to disregard our shared history," wrote Telegraph columnist Toby Young. "Does Britain's friendship really mean so little to him?" One could ask, does the friendship of anyone in the entire world mean anything to him?
"I recently asked several senior administration officials, separately, to name a foreign leader with whom Barack Obama has forged a strong personal relationship during his first year in office," wrote Jackson Diehl, deputy editorial page editor of the Washington Post, on Monday. "A lot of hemming and hawing ensued." One official named French President Nicolas Sarkozy, but his contempt for Mr. Obama is an open secret. Another named German Chancellor Angela Merkel. But, said Mr. Diehl, "Merkel too has been conspicuously cool toward Obama."
Mr. Obama certainly doesn't care about the Poles and Czechs, whom he has betrayed on missile defense. Honduras and Israel also can attest that he's been an unreliable ally and an unfaithful friend. Ironically, our relations with both Israel and the Palestinian Authority have never been worse. Russia has offered nothing in exchange for Mr. Obama's abandonment of missile defense. Russia and China won't support serious sanctions on Iran. Syria's support for terrorism has not diminished despite efforts to normalize diplomatic relations. The reclusive military dictatorship that runs Burma has responded to our efforts at "engagement" by deepening its ties to North Korea.
And the Chinese make little effort to disguise their contempt for him.
For the first time in a long time, the President of the United States is actually distrusted by its' allies and not in the least feared by its' adversaries. Nor is Mr. Obama now respected by the majority of Americans. Understandably focused on the dismal economy and Mr. Obama's relentless efforts to nationalize and socialize health care, Americans apparently have yet to notice his dismal performance and lack of respect in the world community.
They soon will.
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houseboat
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Will this help?
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6/18/2010 1:23:30 PM
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I would be glad to contribute money to help buy Obama a one-way plane ticket to Kenya.
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kirbys dropwing
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Will this help?
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6/18/2010 1:53:15 PM
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Just think 2 and a half more years of this administration. If the first year and a half is any indication, I shiver in my boots at the thought of the damage that will be inflicted on Americans .
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Talullahhound
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/18/2010 7:38:18 PM
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You know, I just love it when the Brits whine. Nobody whines as well as the Brits -- all the while they undermine US interests. They love to play up their "special" relationship with us when it suits their interests, but when it doesn't, they pull the rug out from us faster than you can blink. It's a shame that people don't really see what goes on behind the scenes. I wish you could have been part of the various negotiations I was in on during my career. Your eyes would be opened wide.
It's not this Administration. They laughed at your beloved GWB -- Tony Blair didn't love GWB nearly as much as he loved Clinton.
The Australians are far better allies to the US than the Brits. And they don't endlessly whine either.
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MAJ USA RET
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/19/2010 9:58:09 AM
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Hound, why do you prejudicially attack the British instead of refuting the points set forth by London Daily Telegraph editor, Alex Singleton?
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Talullahhound
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/19/2010 12:08:29 PM
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Because I don't have to. This is an opinion piece. It speaks or itself. He doesn't like the Administration; so what? He thinks the Administration should be kissing the butts of the Brits and in his opinion, the Administration is not doing it, or at least not to his satisfaction. Why do I care? I don't think we should kiss the Brits either.
Anyone who has dealt with the British government would identify immediately the truth of my comments. And I'm hardly alone in my opinion that the Australians are much better allies of the US.
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lotowner
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/19/2010 8:34:16 PM
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Hey TH
You have told us what you think about the Brits. Now, tell us what you think about the contents of this article.
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Talullahhound
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From The London Daily Telegraph
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6/19/2010 10:05:14 PM
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I think the article is ridiculous. Brit opinion writers ought to stick to criticism of the British government's foreign policy.
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MartiniMan
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The money quote.....
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6/21/2010 10:40:41 AM
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in Hound's usual defense of the Messiah was the money quote " It's a shame that people don't really see what goes on behind the
scenes."
You see guys, despite all evidence to the contrary we are being fooled by the collective wisdom of the world and would really understand if only we had the unique insight and wisdom gained by being a true Washington insider. You see us ordinary rubes in flyover country just will never understand because we don't sit in some block building in D.C. gaining that visionary knowledge about what is really going on "behind the scenes". Of course that vision didn't help them to stop the 911 highjackers, they didn't know that after spending trillions of dollars on the war on poverty we would be no better off, that the government promoted actions of Fannie and Freddie would give us the worst recession since the bumbling one Jimmy Carter or the Bay of Pigs or the Waco mass murder or the.........well, I could fill several volumes of the screw ups and mistakes by Hound's much vaunted government officials with that behind the scenes knowledge.
Despite all the evidence of government incompetence all we really need to have is that valuable insight from seeing what happens behind the curtains and it will all suddenly make sense............just repeat after me......trust your government.....trust your government.......trust your gov...........
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Talullahhound
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Happy Now?
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6/22/2010 2:23:11 PM
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I'm sorry my insight upsets you so much, but if you feel better trashing me, well I guess that is something.
The government is not infallible. But on a daily basis it does a whole lot that is good and helpful to the citizens of this country too. But, you hate your government? Have at it. Maybe you should run for public office sometime, get elected and then you can "fix" all the bad stuff. Or better yet, maybe you could take a government job for a few years, and then we can talk as equals.
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MartiniMan
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Happy Now?
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6/22/2010 2:43:30 PM
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I can't afford the pay cut to run for public office. As for "being your equal" by working for the government in my view that would be like setting up shop on a highway ramp with a sign, "Hungry and out of Work, Please Help" so I could be equal to a panhandler. It might give me that valuable insight but at the end of the day I'd rather not.
As for hating the government you misunderstand. I don't hate the government. I strongly believe in limited government and believe in having more government closer to the people versus an imperial federal government that you apparently place so much confidence in. I am 50 years old and work with state and federal government agencies every single day and I can see what they are good at and what they should not be involved in. I believe in government that operates consistent with the Constitution and Bill of Rights and oppose them expanding their power beyond that envisioned by our Founding Fathers. There is no doubt a lot of good is done by government every day but there is a lot of damage done as well. I will always oppose bad government and fortunately I am not blinded by being your equal and can tell the difference.
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MartiniMan
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Happy Now?
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6/22/2010 4:13:57 PM
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And I didn't trash you. I simply accurately characterized a recurring theme with you in your arrogance toward those of us that didn't spend our lives working for the government. If that is trashing you then so be it but I don't see it that way.
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Talullahhound
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Happy Now?
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6/22/2010 9:39:34 PM
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Well, we certainly would not want you to take a pay cut to serve your country. That would be unthinkable. Public service is only for fools who couldn't get a job anywhere else, right? Not for an astute business man like yourself. And you certainly wouldn't want to take on the responsibility of public office. That's just for morons. It's so much smarter to be on the outside being critical than actually trying to change something.
The fact that you deal with State and Local government doesn't necessarily give you any insight as to how the Federal Government operates. My limited experience with State and Local government as a consumer of their services convinces me that they could benefit from the disciplined miltiary environment where people's lives often depend on getting something done.
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Talullahhound
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And arrogance?
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6/22/2010 9:41:49 PM
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Well, you certainly know arrogance. You seem to have written the book on arrogance.
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Lifer
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Who's trashing whom?
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6/23/2010 9:41:22 AM
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MM points out what is obviuos to us 'great unwashed in flyover country". Basically states a personal opnion and you come back with with the blistering attack on his character because he chose to be a producer and not a moocher.
And once again, working for the guvment is NOT serving your country. It is going to work everyday like the rest of the world. Only those in uniform 'serve' us. The rest just drain our wallets.
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is a minority opinion. Working for the government is serving your country, by serving the tax payer and in my case, supporting the military. Really Lifer, what would you know about it? Believe you said your career has been in retail? So I guess that really makes you an expert now, doesn't it?
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MAJ USA RET
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Yours
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6/23/2010 2:56:38 PM
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Q: To what does the user name "Lifer" refer?
Statement: When (in a combat environment)one comes under fire, job security does not come immediately to mind. Therein lies the primary difference between civil service and military service.
An amusing aspect is that it is easier to prosecute or chapter a soldier than it is to prosecute or fire a civil servant.
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When the plane hit the Pentagon, I don't think job security was in anyone's mind. And there are plenty of civilians serving in combat areas -- voluntarily.
And who do you suppose is supporting the soldiers back in the US while they are fighting overseas? How do you think they get supplies, food, bullets, trucks?
You have a very outdated view of the role of civilians in DoD. Good thing you are retired. Foolish man.
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Lifer
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Proof once again...
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6/23/2010 6:57:52 PM
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.. how out of touch with reality you really are. IF you think the citizenry of this once great nation equate civil service to millitary service you are so sadly mistaken as to be laughable.
I worked for a guvment funding agency once for a couple of years. I participated in the SSS a couple of times. That SSS would be the SEPTEMBER SHOPPING SPREE. We pinched pennies all year, in our case did work below market value, and sacrificed to scrimp and save only to see all the extravagant shopping in September because if we didn't use it, we would loose it. It was shortly after the second SSS when I was denied a raise that I left and went back to the private sector. It also galled me to work with so many conservative thinkers that would vote for democrats because they knew they would get increased funding without increased accountabillity, and admitted it freely.
You see, I understand more about the guvment sector than you will ever understand about the private sector. I have an uncle who retired out of the pentagon after 30+ years of service (maybe you knew him Commander Ray Coe, USN Submariner Service Rtd.), another uncle who was City Manager (title may have been city planner)of Scottsdale, AR for 20+ years, and numerous freinds and family STILL in the guvment sector.
Now once again, how many businesses have you run? How many budgets have you had to make? And when I say make, I mean make!! Because in the retail environment you earn your budget by posting numbers. How many times was your income dependent on meeting sales quotas? How many times has your 'bonus' been directly related to meeting sales goals? How many times have you had to lay off a wonderful employee because there just wasn't enough money to pay them, not to mention knowing that that is just so many more hours salaried managers would have to work? How many times did you have to go to work in an environment that criminals target? How many days did you spend with a panic button in your possession because you were targeted by thiefs? How many times did you have to figure out where your shrinkage was coming from, and make adjustments to keep in under control?
All rhetorical questions Hound. I know the answer is zero.
You punched a clock, you got paid. Even when you didn't work. Remember the 3 week guvment 'shutdown'? I have no doubt that YOU were a loyal and dependable civil servant and most likely excelled in your position. But I still hold that you are not the typical 'civil servant' either. I believe the DoD as whole, most likely has a higher caliber employee than most other agencies, at lest I hope they do.
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MAJ USA RET
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Yours
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6/23/2010 6:59:15 PM
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Why do you make personal attacks on those with different ideas? I did not attack YOU, I refuted your position. There is a difference and I don't respect your self assumed right to personally attack me. You and GF do this constantly and it is irritating and distracting.
Your inability to debate without resorting to personal slights would disqualify you in any organized debate. You and GF do this constantly and it is irritating and distracting.
Dismissed, please leave the podium or stick to the issues.
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Talullahhound
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Proof once again...
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6/23/2010 9:12:01 PM
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I have never punched a clock in my life. And during any governmnent shutdown, I worked because, unfortunately, the mission doesn't stop over the inability of the Congress to pass a budget.
I'm not unique. I'm sure that there are people in DoD who don't work extra hours without compensation, but mostly they were clerical and administrative staff. Most people don't complain because they believe in the mission. The DoD fosters a "can do" environment. You don't say no, you don't say "I can't", you just get the job done. There isn't a lot of animosity between the military and civilians. We share office space, share the coffee pot, and share the work. So when people get into this military vs. civilian thing, I'm not sure where it comes from. I've certainly never experienced it. Yes, there are ocassional jerks, but that happens everywhere.
Some of my military collegues are life long friends. I'm proud of our military.
But it takes a village to support them.
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MAJ USA RET
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Proof once again...
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6/23/2010 11:19:12 PM
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Hello? Did you read the question. Your response is typical displacement behavior.
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