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MartiniMan
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/30/2017 12:30:37 PM
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Recent study by NASA indicates that there has been no reduction in polar ice cap thickness since they began studying it in 1979. In fact, since 2012 the polar ice caps are thicker than they were in 1979. It is amazing to watch the slavish devotion to global warming and all its supposed dire consequences in the face of data and evidence to the contrary. So fear not alarmists, those poor polar bears are going to be OK.
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Mack
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/30/2017 7:05:52 PM
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And, how many $Billions up a wild hog's butt and into a federal leech's pocket???
And my best friend, disabled veteran of Viet Nam, Agent Orange breather.. must repeatedly fight with the VA to get benefits clearly due him??
I truly love the Federal Government and CNN, don't you??
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phil
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/31/2017 9:09:52 AM (updated 5/31/2017 9:10:52 AM)
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Know the feeling Mack - had a friend(also Viet Nam, not disabled just got lots of problems) just got done with surgery at VA, came home two weeks ago - been trying to get the morons to listen for years and finally someone listened and fixed the problem before it killed him (surgery was successfully thank God). Should be that damn hard to get something taken care of, in a timely manner, when they will not let you go somewhere else. VA is a damn joke and vets deserve better then that.
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Talullahhound
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/31/2017 1:08:20 PM
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VA does not meet what was promised to our service members. I'm in favor of letting the vets get care from private practice and having the VA reimburse them, but a friend who is a legislator in VA, says that they just need to fix the VA. My father and my husband are both vets that have never used the VA services, because health insurance and Medicare have taken care of their needs. But if a vet has to depend on the VA, but a friend of my father's has to travel over 2 hours just to get to the VA care center. Last year she went there to get treatment for what she thought was pneumonia, but was givens some meds and sent on her way. She later went to the local ER, who put her in the hospital.
I have no idea about climate change - but if it exists, can we really do anything meaningful about it? Without 100% agreement from all nations that it exists and 100% agreement what should be done about it, what good does it do? Now polluting our oceans? That is something I think needs to be worked on.
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wix
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VA and political reality
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5/31/2017 2:21:16 PM
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I've noticed an interesting fact about the VA. Organizations such as American Legion, DAV, etc., all support the existing VA healthcare system even though it is the most flawed gubment bureaucracy. These so called veterans helpers all have employees who thrive off the VA's problems. If the VA problems are solved these folks are out of business, so they spend a huge amount of time supporting the VA thugs. If anyone wants to know what causes the VA problem, just go walk thru a VA hospital and look at the employees......
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MartiniMan
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/31/2017 2:22:36 PM
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I can assure you that climate change is real. It has always changed and it will always change. The real question is whether man-made emmissions are impacting global climates and if they are to what degree, what can we do about it and at what cost. I remain unconvinced that man-made CO2 is significantly impacting global climates. I think the failure of the models to accurately predict global temperatures over the last two decades is highly problematic. They were the seminal rationale for tying CO2 levels to global climates and they have been miserably wrong.....well, except for the ones that did not find global climates being sensitive to CO2 levels (those were of course rejected by alarmists). I also find the manipulation and hiding of data to be cause for skepticism, not to mention the suppression and intimidation of scientists that have countering viewpoints. I also object to the lack of recognition of the impact of the sun on global climates. That is like ignoring the impact your furnace has on the temperature in your home. Lot's of solid research that has shown that global climates have always followed the cycles of the sun. No surprise there.
But more to the point, what is the cost of reducing CO2 emmissions and how will it adversely impact us? My view based on what I have read is that the usual prescriptions to respond to an unproven theory will have tremendous negative impacts on mankind, particularly the poor and developing countries. And for obvious reasons, there is never one iota of discussion of the positive benefits of global warming as we have seen over the last 10,000 years. I think we can all agree that we are better off with the weather in the midwest today versus 10,000 years ago when it was covered with a mile thick sheet of ice.
I could go on and on about why I think the whole thing is a scam designed to transfer power to governments and wealth from developed nations to developing nations. As for pollution in the oceans, that is indeed a problem but not in the U.S.
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phil
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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5/31/2017 2:35:59 PM
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I still have a problem with that "settled" science. Do I want to bash the head in of the loser who tossed his breakfast bag into traffic this morning - yup. Do I think using technology to create cars that pollute less is a good thing - yup. Do I think dumping crap in our Oceans is a good thing - nope. Do I think the abililty to tax a cow fart and redristribute those $$ to a country who is cow deficient makes sense? not only no but hell no.
Have a neighbor 2 doors up who lost his legs to one of the islands in the pacific - he does not like to talk about it much. He is not exactly young by any definition and was still in a manual wheel chair. Got sick and was rushed to the ER with a bad infection and the sores from the wheelchair were not good, transferred to VA, home in 2 days with a bottle of pills and open sores you could put your fist in. Three months later and lots of pushing on his part he ended up at a VA wound care in Tennessee - was gone for 14 months. Returned home for a few months and was gone for close to 2 years to somewhere in Minnesota but returned mostly healed and with an electric scooter to help him around because he had injured his hand and they felt they could finally justify it to some bean counter with two good legs.
He said that he actually had to return home every some many months and leave a clinic regardless of treatment or health or they would cut off some of his pension and/or family benefits.
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Talullahhound
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6/1/2017 5:28:36 PM
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Not sure I totally agree with you about the oceans. At least 6 beaches in NJ are closed right now for dangerous bacteria levels.
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Lifer
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/1/2017 5:46:00 PM
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You don't think it could have something to do with NYC loading millions of tons of trash on barges to ship to other states do you? Rhetorical question, but I find it sanctimonious that they can't find a way to deal with their own trash. Why not incinerate it and recapture the heat to make electricity. It is a proven process. Not real efficient but better than shipping it to others to deal with.
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Talullahhound
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6/1/2017 8:41:37 PM
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It likely is, and medical waste. But there are problems in other places too.
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MartiniMan
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6/2/2017 9:25:09 AM
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I'm not saying there aren't areas that need some additional action but if you travel the world there are far more places where they totally lack adequate controls on discharges to the ocean. And I am not talking about the resorts but around urban areas and industrial areas. Relatively speaking we are way better off than much of the world.
On the issue of fecal coliform, that is usually a problem of combined sewer overflow where sanitary sewage is combined with stormwater and gets disharged into waterways. Those are usually upset conditions and not the normal course of events. Heavily urbanized areas usually have this problem due to not having kept the infrastructure in line with population growth. Yet another failure of government in one of the few areas they should be competent.
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Talullahhound
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/2/2017 9:28:01 AM
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Good points.
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MrHodja
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/2/2017 10:28:33 AM
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Back when I was supporting a Foreign Military Sales case for the Italian Navy the team spent quite a while on board the ship off the northern Italian coast. Most of the time the only thing we saw in the water were creatures born there. On occasion, though, it would look like a garbage barge had emptied its entire contents into the sea. And of course every now and then there was a brown plume in the water behind the ship...we won't go there, lol.
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Buteye
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/2/2017 12:00:02 PM
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I think it would be interesting to know the full extent as to how New York City disposes of the mountains of trash and other debris generated on a daily basis. Then again, maybe we really don't want to know.
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Talullahhound
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/3/2017 5:22:36 PM
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Back many moons ago, when I was still living in NJ, the beaches would be filled with needles and other medical waste. Also garbage. A friend of mine tells me they now rake the beach every day to clean up such things. Starting from when I was a teenager, I could not swim in the ocean in NJ, because I would get swollen glands and feel like crap. That would have been back in the 70s. And you have to pay to get on the beach there. This isn't the first year that they've had to close the beaches because of high volume of bacteria. I feel sure that NYC is still floating garbage barges out onto the ocean and dumping them.
Of course, once I discovered the relatively clean beaches of the Gulf, I don't feel compelled to go to the beach in NJ, except as a nostalgia tour.
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Mack
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NASA bursts another globaloney bubble
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6/3/2017 6:56:03 PM
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Shhhhh...
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