Name:	shaki -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/23/2023 3:38:36 PM (updated 8/23/2023 3:53:03 PM)

Does anyone have information on how the new Heritage golf course is maintaining their greens? Golf courses typically fertilize their greens, which would be horrific for Lake Martin, due to runoff. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/24/2023 9:13:41 AM (updated 8/24/2023 9:16:39 AM)

The golf course is called Wicker Point.  There are already two golf course on Lake Martin and I assume they will have runoff control.

Name:	F1Fan -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/24/2023 10:00:29 AM

"Horrific"???

Name:	shaki -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/24/2023 12:22:00 PM

https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/wicker-point-lakeside-drama

Name:	Wakely -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/24/2023 1:55:29 PM

Eutrification: increased alga and lower levels of dissolved oxygen. That's a result of phosphorous from fertilization entering a body of water, and it can be devastating.

Golf courses are, obviously, a big concern for the bodies of water close to them. But anyone demonizing golf courses should take notice of how many lush, green, tree-free lawns there are on the lake. And not just in the developments; a number of private homes that actually have a say in their landscaping choices have also opted to dump fertilizer into the lake.

If you're looking to poolute a large body of water in an unobtrusive way, it's hard to do better than building a golf course. The potential damage CAN be mitigated; the question is, do the people who need to care really care at all?

Name:	boataholic -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/25/2023 11:35:07 PM

From the pictures I've seen, there aren't that many holes directly on the water.  If we are to have a problem, it will be from lawns maintained "professionally" in front of all the new mansions all over the lake..

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/25/2023 11:49:14 PM

It maybe too late, but the percent of lawn area pe rhome site should have been restricted. Yards around a lake should be left in their natural state. The use of fertilizer is so unhealthy for any body of water.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/26/2023 7:03:19 AM

The last article I saw said holes 9-18 are on the water.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Great Video
Date:	8/26/2023 8:33:52 AM (updated 8/26/2023 8:36:54 AM)

When you open, scroll down to the video. A great video to share and show the beauty of Lake Martin.

https://www.russelllands.com/neighborhoods/the-heritage/

Name:	Lighthouse -	Reply
Subject:	Great Video
Date:	8/26/2023 11:06:20 AM

Hey GF, where on the lake is this going to be?

Name:	Lighthouse -	Reply
Subject:	MAP
Date:	8/26/2023 8:47:36 PM

Thanks.  knew it had to be somewhere in that general vicinity but wasnt sure where.

Name:	cottonmouth -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/27/2023 6:00:17 PM

My greatest concern is the septic seapage from all the old homes and trailers around the lake.  Odds are there is probably a great amount of septic drainage into our beautiful lake.  

Name:	shaki -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/27/2023 8:19:59 PM (updated 8/27/2023 8:20:50 PM)

Agree. Read this...

https://lakewatchoflakemartin.wildapricot.org/Swim-Alert/

Also, Camp Hill has been leaking sewage into Lake Martin...

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/28/2023 6:48:19 AM (updated 8/28/2023 7:06:35 AM)

So did Dadeville for years, and guess what?  Nothing happened.  Nobobdy got sick, certianly nobody died, no do not eat the fish orders, NOTHING happened. Nobody even knew till it got reported.  So how could it have been so bad, if nobody knew it?

As for all the "old trailers" and such having leaking septic s% oystems, I wouuld ask for ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that it is happening.  Pleasure Point was the greatest offender and they shut it down, but even when it was in its heyday you had to work hard to find any E coli it the water around the place because dilution is the solution most all pollution.

We have the cleanest lake in the Southeast and maybe the country, but all some folks can do is find fault with it.  Some need to find/create a problem so they can be "part of the solution" for their own egos.

Cottonmouth, my Dad put a small double wide trailer on the old family spot so we could enjoy the lake.  For 30 years our entore family used that place had so many good times there that I don't remember some of them.  For you to insuate that the trailers are a septic problem is an insult to me and so many others.  Do you think folks went about dumping raw sewage from their trialer into the lake pisses me off to no end.  You think folks like my Dad, a middle class worker bee, would install defective septic right where his children and grand children are going to be playing?  Your comment was disgraceful and you should write a sincerre apology to all the trailer dwellers of the world and then STFU you elitist Piece of Sh!t.

Funny you didn't mention all the old Russell Cabins that still dot the landscape all around the lake.  Are their septic systems leaking into the lake too, or is it just the trailers?

And BTW, I looked at the link you provided Cottonmouth and just like politicians it is nothing more than a "big scary story" to entice folks to make a donation.  It says be terrified, until you give us money and then everything will be OK.  I dodn't look at every "Simming spot" but I spot checked 5 of them.  Every single one I checked says passed 95% pass rate.  The other 5% must have had a fish turd it.

Name:	shaki -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/28/2023 3:31:04 PM (updated 8/28/2023 3:32:22 PM)

I did not interpret Cottonmouth's comment the same way as you did and do not think he intended what you are implying. Huge overreaction. 

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	The Heritage Golf Course concern
Date:	8/29/2023 8:39:17 AM

I don't think the poster meant to insult you or anyone else.  But aging septic systems are a problem.  I don't think that anyone back in the day did anything deliberate to sully the lake, but now we know more about polluting ground water and how that works, so if they did so it wasn't with intent, they just didn't know.  But over a period of time, old septic systems will break down and the waste has to go somewhere.  Even in Coosa County, which probably has less laws and rules about building than any of the other counties, is extremly strict about septic systems, their proximeity to the lake.  

Let's face it, it is in everyone's best interest to keep the lake pollution free.  And we probably don't have a problem in the shorter term, but long term, questions should be asked about run off and other things that may lead to a problem in the future.  Every year we hear about people contracting fleash eating or brain destoying parasites that can be present in the water.  I know that there is a big testing program on our lake that checks the water quality, but they can only do so much.  It's up to us to be the stewards of the environment as best we can.  

I stopped using any kind of chemicals on our lawn years ago.  Yes, I have weeds, but I also have a living eco system of toads, lizards and other creatures that are threatened by the use of chemicals.  I know the companies say they are safe for the environment, but they used to say that about Round up too.

I think the point is that when we know better, we should do better.  I am wondering why we need more golf courses anyway - isn;'t golf supposed to be on the way out?